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    <title>Hebrew Bible Full Class</title>
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    <content type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&#34;https://bibleproject.com/classroom-alpha/education-videos/session-1-what-earth-hebrew-bible/&#34;&gt;Class link&lt;/a&gt;&#xA;&lt;a href=&#34;http://paynepride.com:8010/documents/162&#34;&gt;Classroom notes (Must be on home network)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&#xA;&lt;h1 id=&#34;01-the-shape-of-the-hebrew-bible&#34;&gt;&lt;span class=&#34;heading-wear-glyph&#34;&gt;01 The Shape of the Hebrew Bible&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/h1&gt;&#xA;&lt;h2 id=&#34;session-1-what-on-earth-is-the-hebrew-bible&#34;&gt;&lt;span class=&#34;heading-wear-glyph&#34;&gt;Session 1: What on Earth is the Hebrew Bible?&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href=&#34;#session-1-what-on-earth-is-the-hebrew-bible&#34; class=&#34;heading-anchor&#34;&gt;#&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&#xA;&lt;p&gt;This class is not so much a survey of the HB, it is Tim&amp;rsquo;s attempt to distil the&#xA;most helpful things for understanding it in a consumable way for laypeople.&lt;/p&gt;&#xA;&lt;p&gt;A chunk of this is the other people giving some of their own background. One&#xA;lady said something that might be helpful for ministry - &amp;ldquo;Maybe that thing that&#xA;I saw as &amp;lsquo;you don&amp;rsquo;t love me&amp;rsquo; is &amp;lsquo;I don&amp;rsquo;t know how to love you&amp;rsquo;&amp;rdquo;&lt;/p&gt;&#xA;&lt;div class=&#34;admonition note&#34;&gt;&#xA;&lt;p class=&#34;admonition-title&#34;&gt;how to love&lt;/p&gt;&#xA;&lt;p&gt;Maybe that thing that I saw as &amp;lsquo;you don&amp;rsquo;t love me&amp;rsquo; is &amp;lsquo;I don&amp;rsquo;t know how to love you&amp;rsquo;&lt;/p&gt;&#xA;&lt;/div&gt;&#xA;&lt;div class=&#34;admonition danger&#34;&gt;&#xA;&lt;p class=&#34;admonition-title&#34;&gt;Christian coping strategy for the Olt Testament&lt;/p&gt;&#xA;&lt;ol&gt;&#xA;&lt;li&gt;&#xA;&lt;p&gt;Hero-example model&lt;/p&gt;&#xA;&lt;ul&gt;&#xA;&lt;li&gt;Stories get isolated and distilled down into a simple moral model, where the hero is just the hero.&lt;/li&gt;&#xA;&lt;li&gt;Veggie-Tales is uber-guilty of this nonsense&lt;/li&gt;&#xA;&lt;li&gt;There&amp;rsquo;s something correct about this - but the oversimplification usually comes out of a massive re-writting of the stories, then anyone raised on those versions of the story is scaldalized when they read it for real&lt;/li&gt;&#xA;&lt;/ul&gt;&#xA;&lt;/li&gt;&#xA;&lt;li&gt;&#xA;&lt;p&gt;Poltical-authority source&lt;/p&gt;&#xA;&lt;ul&gt;&#xA;&lt;li&gt;Political parties hijacking &amp;ldquo;The Bible says X about Y&amp;rdquo; as a means to harvest authority from a book that many people claim is authoritative.&lt;/li&gt;&#xA;&lt;/ul&gt;&#xA;&lt;/li&gt;&#xA;&lt;li&gt;&#xA;&lt;p&gt;Theology answer book model&lt;/p&gt;&#xA;&lt;ul&gt;&#xA;&lt;li&gt;Treating the Bible like a dictionary of key/value pairs where keys are questions and values are simple answers.&lt;/li&gt;&#xA;&lt;li&gt;This ignores narrative, and general literacy.&lt;/li&gt;&#xA;&lt;li&gt;The instinct may be right - the Bible should profoundly shape my view of everything, but it isn&amp;rsquo;t simple&lt;/li&gt;&#xA;&lt;/ul&gt;&#xA;&lt;/li&gt;&#xA;&lt;li&gt;&#xA;&lt;p&gt;Inspirational-heart-warming model&lt;/p&gt;&#xA;&lt;ul&gt;&#xA;&lt;li&gt;Verse-a-day calendars&lt;/li&gt;&#xA;&lt;li&gt;Jermiah 29:11&lt;/li&gt;&#xA;&lt;/ul&gt;&#xA;&lt;/li&gt;&#xA;&lt;/ol&gt;&#xA;&lt;/div&gt;&#xA;&lt;div class=&#34;admonition warning&#34;&gt;&#xA;&lt;p class=&#34;admonition-title&#34;&gt;Warning&lt;/p&gt;&#xA;&lt;p&gt;Are we imposing a set of questions that are foreign to what the authors are&#xA;trying to communicate? do we need to set our cultural agendas aside to just&#xA;listen?&lt;/p&gt;&#xA;&lt;/div&gt;&#xA;&lt;p&gt;A result of asking the wrong questions is the common story of people&amp;rsquo;s faith being dismantled &lt;em&gt;by reading the Bible&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&#xA;&lt;div class=&#34;admonition note&#34;&gt;&#xA;&lt;p class=&#34;admonition-title&#34;&gt;DL Baker - Two Testaments - One Bible&lt;/p&gt;&#xA;&lt;p&gt;One of the most fundamental questions which has faced theology and the&#xA;Church in every age&amp;hellip; is whether or not Christianity also needs an Old&#xA;Testament. Is the Old Testament to be thrown away as obsolete, or pre-&#xA;served as a relic from days of yore, or treasured as a classic and read by&#xA;scholars, or used occasionally as a change from the New Testament, or&#xA;kept in a box in case it should be needed some day? Or is the Old Testa-&#xA;ment an essential part of the Christian Bible, with continuing validity along-&#xA;side the New Testament? —&lt;/p&gt;&#xA;&lt;/div&gt;&#xA;&lt;h2 id=&#34;session-2-how-jesus-and-the-apostle-readtheir-bibles&#34;&gt;&lt;span class=&#34;heading-wear-glyph&#34;&gt;Session 2: How Jesus and the Apostle ReadTheir Bibles&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href=&#34;#session-2-how-jesus-and-the-apostle-readtheir-bibles&#34; class=&#34;heading-anchor&#34;&gt;#&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&#xA;&lt;p&gt;The Bible most often refers to itself as &lt;em&gt;the Writings&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&#xA;&lt;div class=&#34;admonition note&#34;&gt;&#xA;&lt;p class=&#34;admonition-title&#34;&gt;Road to Emmaus&lt;/p&gt;&#xA;&lt;p&gt;Jesus confronts a couple guys walking to Emmaus after he is resurrected and&#xA;more or less calls them idiots/fools for not understanding that the&#xA;Writings point to an annointed king who will suffer death for the sake of&#xA;redemption. He&amp;rsquo;s recognized by them once their eyes are opened then he vanishes&lt;/p&gt;&#xA;&lt;/div&gt;&#xA;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Weird stuff&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&#xA;&lt;h3 id=&#34;paul-and-timothy&#34;&gt;&lt;span class=&#34;heading-wear-glyph&#34;&gt;Paul and Timothy&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href=&#34;#paul-and-timothy&#34; class=&#34;heading-anchor&#34;&gt;#&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&#xA;&lt;p&gt;Paul assumes when writing to Timothy that he, and probably believers in general, are in a community of people who are regularly learning about Yahweh through the Scriptures &lt;em&gt;as a family&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&#xA;&lt;div class=&#34;admonition quote&#34;&gt;&#xA;&lt;p class=&#34;admonition-title&#34;&gt;2 Timothy 3:15-16&lt;/p&gt;&#xA;&lt;p&gt;&amp;hellip; and that from childhood you ahve known the sacred writings which are&#xA;able to give you the wisdom that leas to salvation through faith which is&#xA;in Christ Jesus. All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for&#xA;teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness&lt;/p&gt;&#xA;&lt;/div&gt;&#xA;&lt;div class=&#34;admonition success&#34;&gt;&#xA;&lt;p class=&#34;admonition-title&#34;&gt;Success&lt;/p&gt;&#xA;&lt;p&gt;For Paul, the &lt;code&gt;Scriptures&lt;/code&gt; here are our OT, the Hebrew Bible. For Paul, the HB&#xA;is entirely &lt;em&gt;wisdom literature&lt;/em&gt; that leads to salvation through Jesus&lt;/p&gt;&#xA;&lt;/div&gt;&#xA;&lt;p&gt;The question of &amp;ldquo;What are the Scriptures?&amp;rdquo; is covered in the next session&lt;/p&gt;&#xA;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;To answer the question &amp;lsquo;How do we read the HB?&amp;rsquo; we have to ask the question&#xA;&amp;lsquo;Whose book is the HB?&amp;rsquo;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&#xA;&lt;h2 id=&#34;session-3-shape-of-the-scriptures&#34;&gt;&lt;span class=&#34;heading-wear-glyph&#34;&gt;Session 3: Shape of the Scriptures&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href=&#34;#session-3-shape-of-the-scriptures&#34; class=&#34;heading-anchor&#34;&gt;#&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&#xA;&lt;p&gt;&lt;code&gt;Old Testament&lt;/code&gt; is the Christian term for a set of writings that comprise about&#xA;3/4 of the Christian Bible. The authors themselves though refer to those&#xA;writings as &lt;code&gt;the Scriptures&lt;/code&gt;. One time it is called &lt;code&gt;the Old Covenant&lt;/code&gt; by Paul&#xA;, but he&amp;rsquo;s talking about Synagogue readings of the Torah portion in synagogues.&#xA;THe phrase &lt;code&gt;Hebrew Bible&lt;/code&gt; is a modern term that is a bit more neutral.&lt;/p&gt;&#xA;&lt;blockquote&gt;&#xA;&lt;p&gt;So, what is our Bible?&lt;/p&gt;&#xA;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&#xA;&lt;div class=&#34;admonition quote&#34;&gt;&#xA;&lt;p class=&#34;admonition-title&#34;&gt;Luke 24:25-27&lt;/p&gt;&#xA;&lt;p&gt;25 And he said to them, “O foolish ones, and slow of&#xA;heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken! 26 Was it not necessary&#xA;that the Christ should suffer these things and enter into his glory?”&#xA;27 And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he interpreted to them in&#xA;all the Scriptures the things concerning himself.&lt;/p&gt;&#xA;&lt;/div&gt;&#xA;&lt;blockquote&gt;&#xA;&lt;p&gt;Moses and the Prophets&lt;/p&gt;&#xA;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&#xA;&lt;h3 id=&#34;tanak&#34;&gt;&lt;span class=&#34;heading-wear-glyph&#34;&gt;TaNaK&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href=&#34;#tanak&#34; class=&#34;heading-anchor&#34;&gt;#&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&#xA;&lt;p&gt;Jweish reference to the books in our OT, in the Hebrew Bible, but the arangement is different&amp;hellip;&lt;/p&gt;&#xA;&lt;div class=&#34;admonition note&#34;&gt;&#xA;&lt;p class=&#34;admonition-title&#34;&gt;TaNaK&lt;/p&gt;&#xA;&lt;ol&gt;&#xA;&lt;li&gt;T = Torah (first 5 books)&lt;/li&gt;&#xA;&lt;li&gt;N - Nevi&amp;rsquo;im (Prophets: Joshua - Kings) [Christians often call these the &amp;lsquo;historial books&amp;rsquo;]&lt;/li&gt;&#xA;&lt;li&gt;K - Ketuvim&lt;/li&gt;&#xA;&lt;/ol&gt;&#xA;&lt;table&gt;&#xA;&lt;thead&gt;&#xA;&lt;tr&gt;&#xA;&lt;th&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Torah&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/th&gt;&#xA;&lt;th&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Pentateuch&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/th&gt;&#xA;&lt;/tr&gt;&#xA;&lt;/thead&gt;&#xA;&lt;tbody&gt;&#xA;&lt;tr&gt;&#xA;&lt;td&gt;Genesis - Exodus - Leviticus - Numbers Deuteronomy&lt;/td&gt;&#xA;&lt;td&gt;Genesis - Exodus - Leviticus - Numbers - Deuteronomy&lt;/td&gt;&#xA;&lt;/tr&gt;&#xA;&lt;tr&gt;&#xA;&lt;td&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Nevi&amp;rsquo;im - The Prophets&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&#xA;&lt;td&gt;&lt;strong&gt;History&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&#xA;&lt;/tr&gt;&#xA;&lt;tr&gt;&#xA;&lt;td&gt;&lt;em&gt;Former Prophets&lt;/em&gt; &lt;br/&gt; Joshua - Judges - Samueal - Kings&lt;/td&gt;&#xA;&lt;td&gt;Joshua - Judges - Ruth &lt;br/&gt; 1-2 Samuel - 1-2 Kings &lt;br/&gt; 1-2 Chronicles &lt;br/&gt; Ezra - Nehemiah - Ester&lt;/td&gt;&#xA;&lt;/tr&gt;&#xA;&lt;tr&gt;&#xA;&lt;td&gt;&lt;em&gt;Later Prophets&lt;/em&gt; &lt;br/&gt; Isaiah - Jeremiah - Ezekiel &lt;br/&gt; Hosea - Joel - Amos - Obadiah - Jonah - Micah - Nahum - Habakkuk - Zephaniah - Haggai - Zechariah - Malachi&lt;/td&gt;&#xA;&lt;td&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Poetry&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;br/&gt; Job - Psalms - Proverbs - Ecclesiastes - Song of Solomon&lt;/td&gt;&#xA;&lt;/tr&gt;&#xA;&lt;tr&gt;&#xA;&lt;td&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Kethuvim - The Writings&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&#xA;&lt;td&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Prophets&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&#xA;&lt;/tr&gt;&#xA;&lt;tr&gt;&#xA;&lt;td&gt;Psalms - Job - Proverbs &lt;br/&gt; Ruth - Song of Songs - Ecclesiastes - Lamentations - Esther [The Megillot] &lt;br/&gt; Daniel - Ezra - Nehemiah - Chronicles&lt;/td&gt;&#xA;&lt;td&gt;Isiah - Jeremiah - Lamentations &lt;br/&gt; Ezekiel - Daniel &lt;br/&gt; Hosea - Joel - Amos - Obadiah - Jonah - Micah - Nahum - Habakkuk - Zephaniah - Haggai - Zechariah - Malachi&lt;/td&gt;&#xA;&lt;/tr&gt;&#xA;&lt;/tbody&gt;&#xA;&lt;/table&gt;&#xA;&lt;/div&gt;&#xA;&lt;div class=&#34;admonition quote&#34;&gt;&#xA;&lt;p class=&#34;admonition-title&#34;&gt;Luke 11:49–51 (ESV) &lt;/p&gt;&#xA;&lt;p&gt;49 Therefore also the Wisdom of God said, ‘I will send them prophets and&#xA;apostles, some of whom they will kill and persecute,’ 50 so that the blood&#xA;of all the prophets, shed from the foundation of the world, may be charged&#xA;against this generation, 51 from the blood of Abel to the blood of&#xA;Zechariah, who perished between the altar and the sanctuary. Yes, I tell&#xA;you, it will be required of this generation.&lt;/p&gt;&#xA;&lt;/div&gt;&#xA;&lt;blockquote&gt;&#xA;&lt;p&gt;Blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah&amp;hellip;&lt;/p&gt;&#xA;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&#xA;&lt;p&gt;Why would Jesus pick these two events? Abel is murdered on page 4, Zechariah is&#xA;murdered in the last part of Chronicles, which in the TaNaK is significant&amp;hellip;&#xA;Jesus is saying that &lt;em&gt;all the prophets from the beginning of the Scriptures to&#xA;the end&lt;/em&gt;&amp;hellip; All the prophets from A-Z so to speak&lt;/p&gt;&#xA;&lt;div class=&#34;admonition note&#34;&gt;&#xA;&lt;p class=&#34;admonition-title&#34;&gt;Scriptures&lt;/p&gt;&#xA;&lt;p&gt;&amp;ldquo;Books&amp;rdquo; as we know it, bound papers with writing on it, called a &amp;lsquo;codex&amp;rsquo;&#xA;wasn&amp;rsquo;t a thing until a couple hundred years post-Jesus&amp;hellip; so when the&#xA;authors say &amp;ldquo;The Scriptures&amp;rdquo; we need to keep in mind that Jews had the&#xA;scriptures in their minds and hearts, not on paper (save for a couple very&#xA;expensive scrolls). So the structure of the scriptures is also apart of the&#xA;Jewish being&amp;hellip; This interaction with the Scriptures is &lt;em&gt;very very very&#xA;different than how we interact with the Bible&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&#xA;&lt;/div&gt;&#xA;&lt;div class=&#34;admonition note&#34;&gt;&#xA;&lt;p class=&#34;admonition-title&#34;&gt;4QMMT&lt;/p&gt;&#xA;&lt;p&gt;&amp;ldquo;The scrolls of Moses, the words of the prophets, and of David.&amp;rdquo;&lt;/p&gt;&#xA;&lt;/div&gt;&#xA;&lt;div class=&#34;admonition note&#34;&gt;&#xA;&lt;p class=&#34;admonition-title&#34;&gt;Philo of Alexandria&lt;/p&gt;&#xA;&lt;p&gt;The laws and the oracles given by inspiration through the prophets and the&#xA;Psalms, and the other scrolls whereby knowledge and piety are increased and&#xA;completed&amp;hellip;&lt;/p&gt;&#xA;&lt;ul&gt;&#xA;&lt;li&gt;De Vita Contemplatetiva, 25&lt;/li&gt;&#xA;&lt;/ul&gt;&#xA;&lt;/div&gt;&#xA;&lt;h3 id=&#34;melito-of-sardis&#34;&gt;&lt;span class=&#34;heading-wear-glyph&#34;&gt;Melito of Sardis&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href=&#34;#melito-of-sardis&#34; class=&#34;heading-anchor&#34;&gt;#&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&#xA;&lt;ul&gt;&#xA;&lt;li&gt;Early 200s&lt;/li&gt;&#xA;&lt;li&gt;One of the earliest Christians to talk about the books/scrolls of Christian scriptures&lt;/li&gt;&#xA;&lt;li&gt;Summarizes &lt;em&gt;Christian ordering&lt;/em&gt; of the Hebrew Bible with some logic&#xA;&lt;ul&gt;&#xA;&lt;li&gt;Foundation narrative of the Pentateuch&lt;/li&gt;&#xA;&lt;li&gt;History&lt;/li&gt;&#xA;&lt;li&gt;Poetry&lt;/li&gt;&#xA;&lt;li&gt;Prophets then point forward to the coming Messiah, Jesus, and the NT writings&lt;/li&gt;&#xA;&lt;/ul&gt;&#xA;&lt;/li&gt;&#xA;&lt;/ul&gt;&#xA;&lt;h2 id=&#34;session-4-seams-between-texts-in-the-dead-sea-scrolls&#34;&gt;&lt;span class=&#34;heading-wear-glyph&#34;&gt;Session 4 - Seams between Texts in the Dead Sea Scrolls&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href=&#34;#session-4-seams-between-texts-in-the-dead-sea-scrolls&#34; class=&#34;heading-anchor&#34;&gt;#&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&#xA;&lt;p&gt;Around 100-200 AD there was a split in the Jewish community over things like&#xA;how the Temple and sacrifices were to be run, etc. A group got kicked out, so&#xA;they grabbed some scrolls and went to start what we&amp;rsquo;d think of as a Monastic&#xA;community. Qumran community is where they went, and the scrolls this group&#xA;managed are called the Dead Sea Scrolls.&lt;/p&gt;&#xA;&lt;p&gt;Out of DSS we have some of the oldest biblical scrolls, they have their own&#xA;writings and liturgies since they were all priests basically too.&lt;/p&gt;&#xA;&lt;p&gt;The scrolls were hidden in caves before the Romans marched on Qumran. They were&#xA;found in the 1940s by a bunch of shepherds. A few showed up online for sale and&#xA;that&amp;rsquo;s how we found out about their exitence&amp;hellip;. These scrolls give us&#xA;pre-Christian Jewish Bible nerds&amp;hellip;&lt;/p&gt;&#xA;&lt;p&gt;Qumran community didn&amp;rsquo;t know about Jesus - they thought the Messiah would be a&#xA;man called &lt;em&gt;The Teacher of Righteousness&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&#xA;&lt;h3 id=&#34;scroll-making&#34;&gt;&lt;span class=&#34;heading-wear-glyph&#34;&gt;Scroll-making&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href=&#34;#scroll-making&#34; class=&#34;heading-anchor&#34;&gt;#&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&#xA;&lt;p&gt;The DSS preserved for us, not only ancient biblical texts, but also the method&#xA;by which scrolls were created. They were well-preserved papyrus that was&#xA;stiched together - literal stitches. We also have obvious additions from Qumran&#xA;community as well as notes from priests and corrections from missed&#xA;transcribing.&lt;/p&gt;&#xA;&lt;h3 id=&#34;our-bible&#34;&gt;&lt;span class=&#34;heading-wear-glyph&#34;&gt;Our Bible&lt;/span&gt; &lt;a href=&#34;#our-bible&#34; class=&#34;heading-anchor&#34;&gt;#&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;&#xA;&lt;p&gt;The DSS scrolls, being the oldest stitched together set of scrolls, teach us&#xA;how scrolls and collections of ancient holy texts were put together. We need to&#xA;keep this in mind when we think about where our Christian Bible came from&lt;/p&gt;&#xA;&lt;p&gt;The beginning and ending of our books might/are filled with hyperlinks that&#xA;call a reader&amp;rsquo;s mind back to other stories. It&amp;rsquo;s the way of linking context and&#xA;stories to one another before the writings are in a codex&lt;/p&gt;&#xA;&lt;blockquote&gt;&#xA;&lt;p&gt;Hyperlinks - language/syntax that remind a reader of antoher scroll - help us&#xA;understand the structure of the Hebrew Bible&lt;/p&gt;&#xA;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&#xA;&lt;div class=&#34;admonition note&#34;&gt;&#xA;&lt;p class=&#34;admonition-title&#34;&gt;A favorite quote from Tim&lt;/p&gt;&#xA;&lt;p&gt;So, you can see I&amp;rsquo;m interested in a historical question of like the&#xA;collection [Hebrew Bible] was produced by a group of people. What did they&#xA;mean by it? And we can actually know a lot about what they meant and locate&#xA;them and read it the way they wanted us to read it, and pick up what&#xA;they&amp;rsquo;re saying. And, lo and behold, you know, I hope to convince you&#xA;that—and this is all pre-Christian—what&amp;rsquo;s happening here and what this all&#xA;points to and means, fits hand in glove with how Jesus and Paul and the&#xA;apostles talk about these texts.&#xA;So that&amp;rsquo;s different from saying nobody&#xA;knew what these texts meant. The events of Jesus happen, and then we go&#xA;reread it, and it has a whole new meaning that no one has ever imagined. It&#xA;seems to me what actually happened in history was a little more interesting&#xA;and complicated than that.  [17:30-18:21]&lt;/p&gt;&#xA;&lt;/div&gt;&#xA;</content>
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